Whores...

[Andy6000]

So, flaunting your boobs just because you feel good about them makes you pathetic? I don't think I see the logic in that.

I kind of see the logic in that... I dunno, I'm not a fan of the craze to dress as if you're gonna give it away at the first instant.

Also people who dress in gangsta clothes? I don't view them as gangbangers, I view them as idiots that idolize that lifestyle, I don't think the same can quite be applied to young women dressing... trampy, but it's sort of similar. Being Paris Hilton is apparently cool. I mean, she gets all that press coverage right?

 

[Torik]

Exactly! Finally somone who has a similar point of view on this.

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

What's wrong with wanting to look good, and feeling good about yourself? If I was 6'4", tan, and chiseled like a Roman diety, hell I'd show off. I'd start wearing sleeveless shirts, tank tops, and things of that nature and all that jazz, and do the little pose when asked what time it is - hell I'd rock the watch. I'd go out and buy a watch so when people ask me the time, I'd bring my arm up and flex and be all Roman godly.
"Oh, you want the time... let me see... well it's half past my 24 inch biceps, so I'd say 3:30. Have a manly day."

So what's wrong with a woman feeling good about her body - hell, even if it's a body I don't feel good looking at - if it gives her self esteem and makes her comfortable and happy.
Too many people get off on the looks of things, positively and negatively.
Obviously I'm just talking about the part of the conversation that cantered to the "trampy" clothing, and what not.

 

[Prexus]

What's wrong with wanting to look good, and feeling good about yourself? If I was 6'4", tan, and chiseled like a Roman diety, hell I'd show off. I'd start wearing sleeveless shirts, tank tops, and things of that nature and all that jazz, and do the little pose when asked what time it is - hell I'd rock the watch. I'd go out and buy a watch so when people ask me the time, I'd bring my arm up and flex and be all Roman godly.
"Oh, you want the time... let me see... well it's half past my 24 inch biceps, so I'd say 3:30. Have a manly day."

So what's wrong with a woman feeling good about her body - hell, even if it's a body I don't feel good looking at - if it gives her self esteem and makes her comfortable and happy.
Too many people get off on the looks of things, positively and negatively.
Obviously I'm just talking about the part of the conversation that cantered to the "trampy" clothing, and what not.

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[plugz]

If u are boring about women.
Try to like men if u want.


lol

 

[Cruelty]

whores > hoodrats

try livin here, buddy.

 

[Torik]

part of the conversation that cantered to the "trampy" clothing, and what not.

Hmmmm... so trampy clothing is ok?

Trampy-adj-
1. Pertaining to a prostitute
2. Promiscous

Hmmmm....... I think I see your point:p

Trampy in itself is why... TRAMPY CLOTHES ARE BAD!!! Duh!

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

So the clothes make the person then?
If I wear black one day - I guess I'm goth, or old heavy metal, depending on how hip you are these days and your age group. It changes my whole mind set, I suppose. It alters my whole vision of the world and all of my actions and expressions?

If I wear lose camouflage pants, and a wife beater tank, does that make me a skin head?

If I wear a wallet chain, with my wallet having 3 nautical stars, a skull on my t, and tight pants I have to be listening to emo music then?

If I wear a matching jumpsuit motifs, adidas let's say. The shoes match the pants, the pants match the shirt, the shirt matches the jacket, the jacket of course matches the bandana, and the banada matches the hat - all of which match the little bracelet rocked on that left arm - I guess my name is 6 to the 0 to the quizzay, cause apparently clothes make the person and I'm a stereotypical drug dealer dropping beats down under the over pass while selling my home made demo at the local mall for $5.

If they dress like a tramp - then judge a book by it's cover?

edit: oh, and prex, don't laugh I did have an article in a newsletter once.

 

[Torik]

Hahaha you make me laugh. You're getting to specific lets make this simple. If you dress preppy... you prolly are a snob. If you dress "trampy" you prolly are pretty slutty or full of yourself. If you dress like whatever.... You prolly don't even care. You aer going into specific clothes. And if you didn't judge a book by its cover how would you pick one to read? Duh...

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

All books with an elf on it is pure poppycock, that leads to a disillusioned sexually frustrated 14 year old who hacks into old video game roms to prove how powerful he is, and role plays as a level 3 amazon with a ... um... +2 die... ehh... something-or-other.

All books with a vampire on them are sadomasochistic tales from people so damaged they can't separate the lies of fantasy from the betrayal of the truth. They live in basements and form cults that go around and commit suicide pacts while listening to various imports from the Netherlands. Not to mention they pour pure meth into their eyes and spend hours on their corpse paint.

All books with a knife on it - you know what I can go on, but it's pointless. All books with a gun are anti-governmental or overly pro-governmental control, books with red letters are hidden messages from this that and the next thing, and god forbid if your book has a chalk outline of a small child, cause I really could have had a fun field day on that one, and so on...

And anyone who shows off their body with their choice of clothing will have sex with just about anyone who happens to look their way. With a world so black and white, I wonder what the fact that I don't own a green shirt says about me.

 

[Grandor]

Hahaha you make me laugh. You're getting to specific lets make this simple. If you dress preppy... you prolly are a snob. If you dress "trampy" you prolly are pretty slutty or full of yourself. If you dress like whatever.... You prolly don't even care. You aer going into specific clothes. And if you didn't judge a book by its cover how would you pick one to read? Duh...

Well, girls like to wear that stuff for attention or to catch your eye. It doesn't mean she want's to get screwed. Girls want to feel good about themselves and by showing their bodies, they are in a way comforting themselves that their bodies are good looking and acceptable. Slutty as your saying is according to dictionary.com "–adjective, -ti?er, -ti?est. of, resembling, or characteristic of a slut: slutty behavior." And a slut is defined as "1) a dirty, slovenly woman. 2) an immoral or dissolute woman; prostitute."
Now unless the girls you're talking about are like that, you shouldn't say, hey! Your skirt is to short! You slut!

Here is a general rule about wearing clothes: If you look yourself in the mirror, say to yourself "Would I wear this to a professional place?" Then make the decision to wear it or not.

PS: Another definition for slut: " A person, especially a woman, considered sexually promiscuous."

Unless the girl is having sex with multiple guys and has low moral standards, another word would fit her better.

 

[Torik]

Whatever you're just trying to make it sound better that they're dressing like a fucking whore. Nothing you say makes it better. If they are wearing slutty clothes they might as well be a slut, and if thats what makes them feel good about themselves then they are just attention whores.

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

I don't get it, I don't. So break it down for me.

What's different about saying you can judge a person by their clothing - and you can judge a person by their clothing? Because when I said black = goth, matching jumpsuit motif = gangsta, and such I was being too specific.

What's the difference between someone's wardrobe collection being a fine base to generalize them with, as opposed to their book collection - because that's somehow just trying to make it seem better.

I don't get it.
So here's a question, that people have alluded to. Are they selling their bodies? Are they sleeping with everyone and everyone else? What is the purpose for defining them as sluts and whores?

Because, I gotta tell ya, by saying clothing = ____ can equal a lot of things.
If you dress like a slut you then you are a whore = if you dress like your from the middle east then you're a terrorist. And I'm not getting it.

 

[Andy6000]

Dressing 'like a slut' is an exaggeration, hyperbole surrounds us everywhere. Not to mention complete abandonment of traditional word definitions. Look at the word gay 50 years ago: homosexual, and now: stupid/uncool as well as homosexual (also associating the two, rather than it being merely immoral). The same thing with slut, both sides of this little argument need to be slightly less literal with these words. The fact that I call my friend a faggot doesn't mean I think he's gay, or a bundle of sticks, or a cigarette, it means I'm joking around and exaggerating a small error of his or some action I don't decree 'appropriate' for our social standards (which are pretty fucked up so I call him a faggot for doing normal things, like helping an old woman with her groceries, or some other moral activity)

Now that I've spent too much time calling you all silly, I don't approve of dressing... Not how you are I guess? I dunno, we do define each other by looks at first glance, if I see a guy wearing a bunch of gangster clothes, like I said before, I don't think he's a gangster, I think he's an idiot and I don't even talk to him because I have that impulse he's got nothing to offer intellectually, whereas that might not be the case, he could be a cool guy with a taste for the rap and no better idea on what to wear.

Likewise with people wearing 'slutty' (see above) clothing, I generally don't associate with girls that wear 4 inch skirts, because they just come off from first glance as... whores, to put it way too far. I'd prefer some pants, mayhaps a skirt that reaches below your waist line, you know, whatever. I can't say I know, but I can say that more girls that dress 'slutty' are not the type of people I want to hang out with than aren't. Hm that sentence was confusing. Whatever you get the point.

Realizing how you dress makes an impact on others views of you is basic common sense, if you don't want to be taken for a 'whore', don't dress like one, dress like... Sexy, but don't overdo it I guess?

The only 'trampy' clothing I really hate are the 4-6 inch skirts and shirts that are too damn small. I can't really think of anything else that I would consciously avoid someone for though. Maybe enough makeup to put a clown to shame, though that's not really catching on with the young women yet.

 

[Torik]

I got the point, and I agree. I guess I should clarify what I mean by slut. I mean if you look like a slut I don't instantly say "slut" I say there is that chance she is, and if not it's like she wants that to appear that way, and I wan't nothing to do with her. And truly the only thing I find slutty, like andy said, is really short skirts and maybe like... Your tits being visible, which is common here, but I don't know about other places. I live in a pretty shitty town. In alaska...

 

[Fafnir]

I don't get it, I don't. So break it down for me.

What's different about saying you can judge a person by their clothing - and you can judge a person by their clothing? Because when I said black = goth, matching jumpsuit motif = gangsta, and such I was being too specific.

What's the difference between someone's wardrobe collection being a fine base to generalize them with, as opposed to their book collection - because that's somehow just trying to make it seem better.

I don't get it.
So here's a question, that people have alluded to. Are they selling their bodies? Are they sleeping with everyone and everyone else? What is the purpose for defining them as sluts and whores?

Because, I gotta tell ya, by saying clothing = ____ can equal a lot of things.
If you dress like a slut you then you are a whore = if you dress like your from the middle east then you're a terrorist. And I'm not getting it.

The penis, that's the difference.

 

[Torik]

lol that is not quite what I was thinking, but if you say so... This topic is officially pointless.... we are arguing about whores? What a waste of time. I'm going to go eat some breakfast, go to work, and go on a date with my gf and go watch the simpson's movie. Sounds like a better plan then sitting here trying to convince someone who isn't going to change their mind anyways.

 

[Calibre]

I'm going to go eat some breakfast, go to work, and go on a date with my gf and go watch the simpson's movie.

Isn't the point of dating to get a girlfriend...

 

[Torik]

No. Having a girlfriend means constant dating. Thats like saying that you date. Then she is a your gf and you don't go on dates anymore? Dating is having a girlfriend.

 

[Calibre]

No. Having a girlfriend means constant dating. Thats like saying that you date. Then she is a your gf and you don't go on dates anymore? Dating is having a girlfriend.

Ok, well i guess it's different between Alaska and the UK then. To me, datings the kinda awkward part when you have to act really nice and sell yourself a bit.
Having a GF is sitting on the couch and farting with a beer in hand...