Mapping in VX

[Dirtie]

I'm pretty sure you can, actually, I just tried it,  you have to click it with shift pressed and then put it with shift pressed too.

Yep, right click with Shift held, and left click somewhere with Shift held.  Just found that out as I read about it.

I'm starting to like VX more now...I'll post a few test screenies later.

Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou!
Other than the amount of tilesets limitation, this is the one thing I thought I lost and was really unhappy about (tilesets can always be scripted in, but this can't). I think this method is even better than the old double-click one - it was pretty difficult finding the one you wanted.

 

[CERU]

Honestly, not even Final Fantasy IV was this square.

 

[Marcus]

Honestly, not even Final Fantasy IV was this square.

So did you like... not play FFIV or is this what them comedians call exaggerated humor where you make an overstatement that makes light of the subject at hand?

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg31 ... uy/ff4.jpg[/img]

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg31 ... /ff4vx.png[/img]

 

[Sic Semper Tyranosaurus]

VX wasn't meant to do that kind of cliff mapping.  Yeah it looks alright, but if you look at it, the shadowing is messed up.

Well OK, I cant see it from that small picture but I'll check it.
EDIT: I see what you mean. The shadows aren't everywere... Damn editor.

There are tiles in the set that add shadow, you know. Unless I dreamt that.

 

[craybest]

Final fantasy IV was actually less square than VX's RTP^, while in castles or houses it's the same, in caves or cliffs it shows. anyway it not like you can't make your own round borders so...

 

[Naze the Eternal]

Guys, I must say that you should just shut up if you hate it. And craybest is right, make your own. Oh, and for those of you who don't know, you can hold down the shift key to turn off autotiling. I used it to stop the cliff tops from blending in with those of a different hight. There is a process, but in my brief words: Outline the area you want seperated with the "Plain Black". Then re-fill with the roof tile, but disable autotiling. Add shadows (Like Semper said) (tiles on tab B, to the left, between windows and plants). I would screenshot it, but you have to have an image-hoster, and I don't.

 

[rexxzecutioner]

imageshack.us

 

[Naze the Eternal]

Okay, so here's what I've got.

Spoiler

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4179/multicliff1lr0.jpg[/img]

Here I have a standard cliff.


http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6663 ... ff2lo1.jpg[/img]

Now I have outlined the outside of the cliff in black.


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8223 ... ff3rp4.jpg[/img]

Now, disabling autotiling (hold shift), replace the black with the roof tile again. You'll also need to touch-up a bit of other tiles using the same method.


http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3483 ... ff4hs5.jpg[/img]

Finally add some shadow using these tiles: http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/345/ ... lescj6.jpg[/img]

The reason that this works is because the edges of the tiles are created to outline the black, and when disabling autotiling, the edges ignore the new tile, and do not blend in. hope that helps, and isn't too big.

 

[Sailor Taurus]

There's still the problem that you can leap from one to the other, due to lack of directional passability.

 

[Hevendor]

Fixable with a couple blank events and height variables.

Use your brains for God's sake, people. If you don't try to fix VX's problems and just admit it's bad, it won't get any better by itself. Because I really, really doubt Enterbrain will change anything.

 

[Sailor Taurus]

Because I really, really doubt Enterbrain will change anything.

The opposite is the problem, they've changed too much. RMXP's mapping system was fine. Not only that, but I specifically remember that one of the top requests for "the next RPG Maker" were more layers, not less. Don't fix what ain't broke (though there ain't no problem adding some more wheels to it).

Also, the events and variables, no excuse. Whilst I admit it is a workaround, that's all it is. With XP you didn't need to go through such random workarounds to do the simplest things. It's a hassle, and i'd much prefer being able to just make a map rather than having to script my own through events.

With that said though, it DOES hold much potential for games with pre-drawn/rendered backdrops. It just lacks in the traditional mapping department.

I would go on, but I fear that i've said this all before.

 

[Mr_Smith]

Nothing. My fault.

 

[Sailor Taurus]

Actually you are incorrect Mr Smith. Those graphics did not originally come from that zombie game. They originally came from a website that specializes in royalty free game graphics, both for free and for pay. They have a free set of RPG Tiles (made for a now abandoned RPG game) free for use.

That's where the tiles are originally from. Not the zombie game.

 

[Prexus]

First of all, that person never claimed to make those tiles. We all known they were from a game design blog and were being transfered into RMXP like a year ago.

Secondly, its much more likely that Zombie Wars stole the graphics, seeing as the rest of the graphics don't match the tiles, and there are infinitely more tiles that the ones that show up in Zombie Wars that the original creator made.

 

[Celvin]

Actually you are incorrect Mr Smith. Those graphics did not originally come from that zombie game. They originally came from a website that specializes in royalty free game graphics, both for free and for pay. They have a free set of RPG Tiles (made for a now abandoned RPG game) free for use.

That's where the tiles are originally from. Not the zombie game.

You got a link to that site?

 

[Mr_Smith]

Hmm, sorry. I didn't look good enough around, before saying it. I will edit the post now.

 

[Taylor]

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/6510 ... onemv2.png[/img]

Oh sh- WHAT BE THIS?

Copying oldschool maps makes RMVX have sexy maps. If you want to know how to map in VX, try observing their maps. But don't just do what I did. :V

But damnit RMVX needs a fountain charset. There's the water spray yes, but not the little bowl of water to go with it.

 

[punched2death]

But damnit RMVX needs a fountain charset. There's the water spray yes, but not the little bowl of water to go with it.

Here, straight out of RMXP:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/599/fountainshe5.png[/img]

 

[Taylor]

Yes, but I was thinking more like the size of the well - to go with the tilebased sprite style of it.

 

[punched2death]

Yeah, I see that it doesn't fit with the set, but it was a way of helping somebody.
I just try my best...